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PostSubject: Setting things straight.   Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:04 pm

So with more and more people leaving this clan we need to set things straight..
Is this clan really breaking up or is this just another set back?
It sucks a lot that important people are leaving. First Rocker, then Legion, now Slide, and who else is to come? I've heard from some that they were thinking about doing the same.. 
So, are we really going to put all that energy in finding a new leader, new admins and such? Or are we going to start all over, but in a different way?

What I was thinking about is continue with the active people on TS and the ones that actually play games with us. I.E. CoD4(Although it's dead IMO.) and LoL.
And why not actually? What does an inactive member do for the clan anyways?
We have had and still have so many people who never even set foot in TS, or even tried socializing with us. So why even bother continueing with them? I know this sounds pretty harsh for new people, but fuck that. We've seen so many important people leaving us (and no I don't put the blame on the new members) and I really don't feel like this is really good for us people who actually want to stay here.

Not even going to bring up my opinion about the reason of leaving this clan for few, because really, I think it's a load of bullshit.

All the time I've spend with this clan has been pretty good. Most people are more fun than some people in real life. FACT. I've probably been in here longer than most of you. So yeah, think about 4/5/6 years. 

Getting back on topic, servers, TeamSpeak... What is going to happen with that is also a big question mark for most of the people here. Because no one feels like paying for a CoD server, if no one plays on it. Same goes for our TeamSpeak server. Who is going to pay for it? I know I won't. Also know that neither one of you feels like doing that.
So, should we drop CoD 4 and just maybe mix once or twice a month? We could do that, but I know for sure that Superman will leave within the next couple of minutes.
TeamSpeak. Well, I might talk about this with Dom, maybe we can figure something out with Outcast.Gamerz?

So with all of the above, and if things are going to be as how I think they will turn out, we will be having less than 12 active people in this clan. A shame. Yes. Can we do much about it? Probably not.

So for anyone who doesn't want to read this whole thing, because they don't care, I ask you gently to leave, because I can't be bothered with those people.

Also I apologize to Ratchet for having the worst Christmas in his life. You in special did not deserve this kind of shit.

I know it's a long post, but, hé, who the fuck cares. I am also not sorry for the amount of swear words, because I am pretty pissed about this all. 
You guys are lucky I'm going to stop here. I could go on and on about this stuff.

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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:57 pm

The above would be possible, if thats what you guys elect to do (as far as the Outcast Gamerz concept).
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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:21 pm

Check the 'Too long didn't read' if ur lazy
Ok, so as I got named as one of the possible leaders for DVAS by Ryan, I'll try and organize this a bit and look around what people want from this clan's future (This is not the same as me calling myself clan leader, for any of u nitpicks trying to start an argument, just saying).

My idea from this point onward, was personally asking people about how they feel in DVAS, and then i'm mainly talking about the active ones. I kind of agree with erwin's idea of the inactive people that are still legitimately in DVAS.
Furthermore i mainly want to 'investigate' what the most important part is that makes this clan so great. Practically that would mean that i'll ask about 15 people some questions in ts or xfire about their opinions, in private instead of open on the forum. I'm sure that some people might find this unnessecary, but from my point of view i believe that the future clan leader, whoever that might be, has the right to know he has active people in his clan that want to make this work. As a future doctor i'll compare it to this: There's no use in trying to reanimate what is already dead.
I have no idea how long it will take me to gather some opinions, but i'm hoping to do it before new year.
After New Year i'll unfortunatly have to be inactive for a month, due to exams that are pretty important right now for me. This means probably deinstalling LoL and ts/xfire if possible. Ryan promised that if needed he'll stay clan leader for the remainder of that month if it helps us sort things out.
Concluding about the payment, i don't know about our cod4 servers but if needed i wouldn't mind paying for the teamspeak server if it will continue bringing me so much fun and joy.

TL;DR
- I'm not accepting Clan Leader yet, I want more opinions first.
- I'll be trying to get those opinions by talking in private with as many of you as i have the time for.
- Unfortunatly, whatever is going to happen, i'll have to be inactive for the whole of januari due to exams.
- Ryan promised to stay clan leader for the remainder of januari if needed
- There will be a teamspeak server, wether on Outcast Gamerz or for DVAS alone, cod4 servers however aren't a certainty.
- I'm sure that if people still want it to happen, DVAS will keep on existing.
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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:36 pm

Myth!

I would like you to speak with me aswell even tho im not active in game or on ts3 im checking the forum everyday and try to come on to Xfire atleast once a week and Dvas still has a part in my heart and it would make me sad if you guys dissapeared and i lost all contact with some of you, also I might have some ideas!

// Carl

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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:46 pm

C4wa wrote:
Myth!

I would like you to speak with me aswell even tho im not active in game or on ts3 im checking the forum everyday and try to come on to Xfire atleast once a week and Dvas still has a part in my heart and it would make me sad if you guys dissapeared and i lost all contact with some of you, also I might have some ideas!

// Carl

I'll be more than glad to talk to you Smile I'll be on xfire as much as I can from now untill New Year. So to all who want to talk, be sure to message me! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:47 pm

First of all, sorry I was a bit mad during the last hours. Not the fact that Slide or Ryan left the clan but the fact that we were such a annoying clan made me pissed. Idk why some of you find it strange that Slide was on Teamspeak after she left. We all know where this all is going to. She was longer than the most members in this clan. I don't find it weird that she gets on TS. I am happy to see here there even if she has left us. Consider her as a "premium" guest.

DVAS will be reduced in size or might even get another name. I have no doubt that the core of DVAS won't split after this time. CoD4 server's seem to be unnecessary now. A teamspeak server seems to be enough. I don't want to exclude the CoD players in this clan but it seems like there is no one voluntary to pay for another server which will most likely not be used anyway. So we could still have fun together on other servers.

I am stepping down from "Headmin" btw. Was useless, there is no need for that in my opinion. Tell me if I am wrong.

As it comes for Myth being Leader, I think he would suit for that job. He is active and is very likeable. You can't hate that guy...unless he plays LoL.


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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:37 am

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First of all, sorry I was a bit mad during the last hours. Not the fact that Slide or Ryan left the clan but the fact that we were such a annoying clan made me pissed. Idk why some of you find it strange that Slide was on Teamspeak after she left. We all know where this all is going to. She was longer than the most members in this clan. I don't find it weird that she gets on TS. I am happy to see here there even if she has left us. Consider her as a "premium" guest.

DVAS will be reduced in size or might even get another name. I have no doubt that the core of DVAS will split after this time. CoD4 server's seem to be unnecessary now. A teamspeak server seems to be enough. I don't want to exclude the CoD players in this clan but it seems like there is no one voluntary to pay for another server which will most likely not be used anyway. So we could still have fun together on other servers.

I am stepping down from "Headmin" btw. Was useless, there is no need for that in my opinion. Tell me if I am wrong.

As it comes for Myth being Leader, I think he would suit for that job. He is active and is very likeable. You can't hate that guy...unless he plays LoL.


You don't find it weird? If she wants to leave and be like ''things will be like before'' don't fucking leave then..

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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:12 am

Sergeyy wrote:

You don't find it weird? If she wants to leave and be like ''things will be like before'' don't fucking leave then..

Her leaving DVAS doesn't mean she's completely abandonding us Serg.

Back on topic: Good plan Myth+I wouldn't mind splitting costs for a teamspeak either. We'll see what the opinion of all our members are.

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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:47 am

Splitting the cost for ts will be a good idea, Im willing to contribute to keep the ts online.

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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:49 pm

I know I'm new, and by no means am I trying to 'push you all out' here as it may seem to some. However, this is what outcast gamerz can offer.  I haven't actually formerly left yet (posting on forums etc), so I can broker a deal with Vip3r and Andy (Our leaders - Top blokes), I think they'd be more then happy to pick up the whole of DVAS, as they have done in the past with another clan whose leadership fell. We have a teamspeak that is already paid for and in the two years I've been there, the payment has always been made, so no worries on that front.  They play many games, so it would suit for all, such as BF Series, CoD, Dota2, LoL, WarZ, DayZ etc (You get the idea).

If you guys want to do this, then it would need to be a clan decision ofc, at the end of the day, its all about being surrounded by friends and playing the games that we enjoy playing with each other. 

Now for my second, unrelated part to the above.

As far as Servers go, CoD4 servers are completely unnecessary, at the moment there are only 4-5 populated promod pub servers online and with players in regularly, I don't think we have enough DVAS members still actively playing cod4 to populate a server to the point where it will self populate due to people coming back.  However, if you do keep the server, please please please get rid of the custom maps and stick to the traditional maps, no one wants to play these really, and its a pain to download!  If you can, the popular public mods have no blocking (unit collision) which is really nice (if you were to go down that route).

I've probably missed something out but contact me on xfire or on here if you've got any questions

xfire: kosbullet (in case I don't have you already).

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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:01 pm

First of all, yes this clan is somewhat falling apart,even though i've been in DVAS only for about an year or so, it has been really sad that some of the people who were really important left.(rocker,etc.)
Secondly, i agree that there's no need for a CoD4 server no longer, Admit it: CoD4 community's dead, most people are offensive (from my prespective) and i think most of us hardly play it anymore.
And finally: I think that myth should (and probably will) be the next leader
The reasons for why i think that are:1.Myth's a great guy,not offensive at all.
2.always active and has been in the clan for a long while.
3.why the heck not.
4.little fishies are cute.

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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:09 pm

For being in this clan for 5 years now, I can tell you this is not the 1st time the clan is falling down but I dont think this is the end.
CoD4 is dead and this is not a secret. I stopped playing it 2 years ago now. Even I don't check the server, I come everyday on the forum.
Since no one want to pay for the server, then stop it. There is couple game where we can play together. Yes I'm thinking about LoL since this is were I spent my game time. There we can be more competitive with the ranked game.
Just consider we have to change the whole clan, think where we want to go and what we want to do.
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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:28 pm

Little status update:

I've started to gather some opinions here and there, and with that i'm also getting a decent idea of how we can prepare for the future. I won't however post that just yet since I want to give people the chance to come with idea's themselves. Besides i wouldn't want to make a big decision before I'm certain that I have the support of the majority of our members. Just know that i'm fairly certain that DVAS as a concept won't stop here if i can help it, but it might be changed a bit to fit the needs and wishes of the members.

Furthermore i'm gratefull for all your kind words to me regarding the new clan leader, but I want to point out that i'm not the leader just yet. I'm still waiting on for example xanatos' opinion on all this. The fact that my name is red is simply because Legion had to apoint someone for administrative purposes.

So if u have an idea on how we could continue in the future, be sure to share your thoughts here in this section. This thread however won't contain any definite decisions. If you like someone's idea, then be sure to give it an upvote.

Lastly, if your thinking of leaving, please wait a bit till we made a final decision. At that point anyone who wants to leave can do that on the best terms Smile Unless ofcourse you only have a limited amount of time left to make a decision, then I fully understand (e.g. Hirmu).

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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:15 pm

About me going in ts, I'm sorry guys, I won't bother you anymore.

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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:18 pm

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About me going in ts, I'm sorry guys, I won't bother you anymore.
Everyone is allowed on teamspeak. Still come to teamspeak.. Just understand some people are just angry at the fact that you left.
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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:44 pm

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Slide <3 wrote:
About me going in ts, I'm sorry guys, I won't bother you anymore.
Everyone is allowed on teamspeak. Still come to teamspeak.. Just understand some people are just angry at the fact that you left.
DVAS ts is a private one, it's only for DVAS members. Smile  
I also understand they're mad at me, that's why I don't want to bother them  Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:46 pm

DVAS teamspeak if you haven't noticed has never been private.
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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:54 pm

$uperMaN wrote:
DVAS teamspeak if you haven't noticed has never been private.

it used to be tbh Rocker would not allow me on it and I only got on it when he was away. Else he would ban me.
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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:16 pm

Non DVAS are allowed to join ts if they want to play games with DVAS members, or if they know a lot of members in DVAS they may ofcourse come hang out. However to keep things clean I ask all members not to give out the real password, temporary ones made by admins on demand should suffice.
The real password = for DVAS members
3h-lasting temporary passwords = for non DVAS members

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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:28 pm

And please, don't invite your whole family and friends. I don't want any dvas member to feel uncomfortable next to so many strangers. That's nothing personal.
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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:03 pm

I agree with everything said on this post.

Yes.

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PostSubject: Re: Setting things straight.   Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:30 pm

People being mad slide is in the teamspeak, what the fuck is this. Of all the times slide is in the teamspeak she is the one setting the mood of the channel, why wouldnt you want this girl in your teamspeak, she can get you free stuff from other people
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